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	<title>Comments on: Rogers/Fido lights TO core with true 3G</title>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://wirelesstoronto.ca/blog/2007/01/25/rogersfido-lights-to-core-with-true-3g/comment-page-1/#comment-27284</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 07:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely disagree that HSDPA or EVDO can be a competitor to the other offerings.

One reason: Cost. 

Sure its cheaper to deploy than land-based services, but for you and me to USE the service is far too expensive. Rogers charges $210 per month for a measly 500 megabytes of access to HSDPA on your laptop or phone.

This wouldn&#039;t last long for most users. That&#039;s only HALF A GB for $210!! (Plus massive overage charges)

Of course, they also will give you an even smaller plan of 200 megabytes for $100. (Plus massive overage charges)

This cannot compete with the affordable Wi-Max or Wi-Fi prices. And, these HSDPA prices are the new improved offerings from Rogers/Fido. All the cellular carriers match their plans/prices and right now competition does not exist. When the Wi-Max started, it was called iFido and costed less. Then Rogers/Bell took over. They want to sell that, not this EVDO/HSDPA. They do not think that average consumers need data, but instead they target large corporations who will pay these astronomical prices for HSDPA/EVDO. Not to mention, they don&#039;t want to put a dent in their home internet businesses!

I own a 850 HSDPA phone, and my conclusion is: Who cares about 3G, UTMS, HSDPA when they aren&#039;t within reach for most people anyways? I know I&#039;m not excited at all. I don&#039;t want to sell the car to pay for a very easily-reachable $10,000 data bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely disagree that HSDPA or EVDO can be a competitor to the other offerings.</p>
<p>One reason: Cost. </p>
<p>Sure its cheaper to deploy than land-based services, but for you and me to USE the service is far too expensive. Rogers charges $210 per month for a measly 500 megabytes of access to HSDPA on your laptop or phone.</p>
<p>This wouldn&#8217;t last long for most users. That&#8217;s only HALF A GB for $210!! (Plus massive overage charges)</p>
<p>Of course, they also will give you an even smaller plan of 200 megabytes for $100. (Plus massive overage charges)</p>
<p>This cannot compete with the affordable Wi-Max or Wi-Fi prices. And, these HSDPA prices are the new improved offerings from Rogers/Fido. All the cellular carriers match their plans/prices and right now competition does not exist. When the Wi-Max started, it was called iFido and costed less. Then Rogers/Bell took over. They want to sell that, not this EVDO/HSDPA. They do not think that average consumers need data, but instead they target large corporations who will pay these astronomical prices for HSDPA/EVDO. Not to mention, they don&#8217;t want to put a dent in their home internet businesses!</p>
<p>I own a 850 HSDPA phone, and my conclusion is: Who cares about 3G, UTMS, HSDPA when they aren&#8217;t within reach for most people anyways? I know I&#8217;m not excited at all. I don&#8217;t want to sell the car to pay for a very easily-reachable $10,000 data bill.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://wirelesstoronto.ca/blog/2007/01/25/rogersfido-lights-to-core-with-true-3g/comment-page-1/#comment-10651</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.  The theoretical peak for HSPDA is something like 3.6Mbps.

Telstra (australia),  which is currently shutting down its CDMA EV-DO network, has an upgrade to its 3G network scheduled this year that will push the peak up to 14.4Mbps. Rogers will presumably follow suit; but when :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  The theoretical peak for HSPDA is something like 3.6Mbps.</p>
<p>Telstra (australia),  which is currently shutting down its CDMA EV-DO network, has an upgrade to its 3G network scheduled this year that will push the peak up to 14.4Mbps. Rogers will presumably follow suit; but when <img src='http://wirelesstoronto.ca/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: quanta</title>
		<link>http://wirelesstoronto.ca/blog/2007/01/25/rogersfido-lights-to-core-with-true-3g/comment-page-1/#comment-10305</link>
		<dc:creator>quanta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 03:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Rogers&#039;s HSPDA rollout is about the same speed as Bell/Telus&#039;s EV-DO network. Users seem to be reporting speeds of roughly 1-3Mbps (cite: HowardForums).  It might be better to say that Rogers/Fido have finally caught up! ;)

In any case, Bell/Telus are gearing up to release EV-DO Release A this year, which will bring about 3Mbps+ speeds to CDMA users.  Both HSPDA and EVDO have a healthy evolutionary path for the near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Rogers&#8217;s HSPDA rollout is about the same speed as Bell/Telus&#8217;s EV-DO network. Users seem to be reporting speeds of roughly 1-3Mbps (cite: HowardForums).  It might be better to say that Rogers/Fido have finally caught up! <img src='http://wirelesstoronto.ca/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In any case, Bell/Telus are gearing up to release EV-DO Release A this year, which will bring about 3Mbps+ speeds to CDMA users.  Both HSPDA and EVDO have a healthy evolutionary path for the near future.</p>
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